The ones that got away

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Part of getting older, I think, is reminiscing back on some close calls in life. Whether it be a potential partner or life-changing meeting or that big moment in the game - it's fun to wonder "what if?"

Since I've been the self-proclaimed King of the Underground Wrestling game, I've had interactions with nearly every stud wrestler from the 90s to now. I've wrestled pro matches against them. I've shared locker rooms with them. And have secrets about a few.

My recollection isn't always top notch, but I'd like to share a few ALMOST had 'em moments with some pro wrestling and underground studs.

KYLE BRADFORD

Ever since I started in the underground wrestling world, I have heard stories about and, even, had slight comparisons to the legendary Kyle Bradford. Sure, you take everything you hear with a grain of salt, but how cool would it be if Tom Cruise (or perhaps, Brad Pitt) chose you as a wrestling partner. 

I've heard a few angles on this story and read a few articles about the incident. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's fascinating. I wish I could share more details that I've heard of this tale and maybe if you catch me in-person I'll gossip a bit about it. 

Finally after nearly a decade of attempting to contact Kyle Bradford, I finally got his phone number. I can't recall who gave it to me. I'm legit when I say I've asked many people over the years.

A few times every year, I try getting in touch with him on his number. I always get the same result. Riiiing-riiiing-riiiiing-riiiing...you have reached the voicemail of.....

Most recently, my old roommate has chatted him up on some site...or at least it's somebody saying it's the man himself. Let's hope it is. I'd like to at the very least chat with Mr. Bradford over the phone for a half hour and have at least begged him to come do a couple videos for my site before I die.

JUNGLE BOY

How crazy would it have been to have a Hollywood 90s MEGASTAR's son on the site? Especially one as fit and talented as Jungle Boy of AEW fame. 

Before he was well-known in wrestling, I had received an email or 2 mentioned this wrestler from California that I should reach out to - Jungle Boy Nate McCoy. I think Barry Burke even suggest or mentioned that the dude may be interested in doing matches.

If you don't know, "Nate McCoy" is 90s heartthrob Luke Perry's son. He had wild hair and was ripped, but it was obvious he was a rookie. Still learning his craft. He'd be a great jobber!

I reached out to him on some social media and pitched him the idea of coming to Florida or Boston to do a few matches for the site. He was open to the idea and we were working on setting up a time to do such. Life is very busy for a lot of people and sometimes the next shoot on my schedule doesn't work well with their commitments, so it can take time to set things up. 

Long story short (or maybe the appropriate length for this tale), Jungle Boy told me he chatted with his father (or someone) and didn't think it was a wise idea to partake in videos like this at this time. And I think he was right. You gotta think it would've been a tad "scandalous" if a TV stars son was perceived to be doing erotica. Obviously that isn't what he would've been doing. He would've been putting on a helluva show in his pro trunks, but you see how the internet works sometimes.

Anyway, WOW! That would've been incredible to have him on his rise to global fame.

CHRIS MASTERS

I don't even know how this one came up. I think a few things happened. First, I think a fan or 6 messaged me about how cool it'd be to have Chris Masters on the site. I reached out to him via e-mail and got no response. I think Jonny Firestorm tried the same approach to no avail...then somewhere down the road I got word that he was interested and I should call him...or maybe I just got his number and decide I would touch base with him about it. Either way, I ended up with his number.

He was cool and polite. I forget how the lead off to the convo went, but the highlight for me was after exchanging a handful of text messages, he asked something like - "so, uh, do we bring our own thongs or do you supply them?" I let him know that pro trunks and speedos were cool...and I'm sure I said, if you wanna wear less that's fine, too. 

Not exactly sure why this fell apart. I think we were working on setting a date for a shoot with him, but his schedule got super busy and maybe one of the big companies was negotiating with him to do some TV stuff. It wasn't like we were best friends and messaging a ton. He was very polite about it and a MASTERPIECE was lost.

SAMMY GUEVARA

I don't wanna bury the guy or anything like that. He's a solid enough wrestler and we've got a strong mutual acquaintance (probably even more than that). However, when I hit him up via twitter or some other way, he wasn't polite and I felt he was a tad rude. 

I've never met the dude and this was all an exchange through social media, so I can understand. Fairly certain I told him of our mutual friend and I expected a much more polite decline to my offer. 

I have a feeling he may have done another wrestling companies videos, but maybe that was just a rumor. Can anyone confirm? 

BUFF BAGWELL

Now, one of my personal favorite one that got away was Buff Bagwell. I spoke to this guy for hours and over weeks. What a character?!

I don't even know where to start. From the first phone call it was wild. I used to watch Buff The Stuff on TV when I was a kid, so to be on the phone with him is surreal. It's interesting how life works out sometimes. 

So here I am on the phone with Buff Bagwell discussing bringing him in for an upcoming shoot. He's interested and we agree to terms...EXCEPT there is one hold up. He's got an insecurity about his calves. Yes, the ones on his legs. He admits that there was a reason he was a long tights guy and why his boots are a bit more roomy than stereotypical pro boots. I assure him that we can work around that and he's in!

WOW! This is awesome.

A night or two later, Buff texts me and says to give him a call to chat about some stuff. I don't recall all the details but we work on finalizing the shoot and flight plans. He's flying out of Atlanta so it's a relatively easy flight to anywhere in the USA. Cool - it's gonna happen. This is huge!

The week moves on and Buff wants to chat on the phone again. The phone calls are fun and I think he's highly entertaining. He talks about his young days in wrestling and some "part-time work" he did shaking his money maker. Hinting the men tip better than women. He mentions his "escorting" work that he was doing on a TV show, but said that was mostly for the cameras. This dude is definitely a superstar. He's a character and I dig it.

 We chat a couple more times over the next few days and the phone calls tend to be over 30 minutes long. He likes chatting at night, which is great with my brain schedule. I tend to think better at night.

During one of our phone calls, he mentions he's got an opportunity to do something during WrestleMania weekend...or some big event like that - so he's asking if we can postpone the shoot until after that. He explains the importance of the booking for the pro wrestling gig and I'm an understanding guy. We agree to set it for a future date. The flight wasn't too expensive (again - Atlanta is an easy airport for most places) but Buff offers to help get a refund on the ticket. He goes on to say something like "I'm glad to help get you a refund or credit for the flight. If I have to I'll say something like a family member passed away. You wouldn't believe how many times I've told them my aunt or uncle recently died and I have to make the funeral" or something like that - certainly not far off. 

We chuckle about it. 

I don't know what happened, but eventually our calls and chats fizzled out. I mentioned maybe him doing a shout out for the fans of the site since life was seemingly getting in the way of us coordinating a shoot. I wasn't out any real money. Just a few dollars for an inexpensive flight. He was cool about it, but I think I dropped the ball. I better pick up the phone and give him a shout. Worst case, I'm sure he'll have me laughing my ass off.

Not sure if I've ever been on a pro wrestling event with him, but I know my tag partner has. He was pumped about it. Told me that Buff said he loved his offense and energy in the ring. Bagwell even mentioned how my buddy didn't do any moves that he saw on WWE and he liked it. 

 

These are the ones I can best remember, but I've lost many other great catches. Most of them due to loyalty to another company or real-life corporate jobs. I did almost have Scot Williams from BG East fame. He said he was open to private custom matches, but had to respect his friendship with the boss. I understand that. That's a common thing with that team. Their roster remains loyal to Kid Leopard, even years (decades) after they've wrestled for him.

If I think of any other big ones, I'll have to do a follow up post on this blog. Maybe you recall some that I can't. Let me know, if so. 

This post wasn't meant to "bury" anyone or paint them in a bad light. It's been a fun and wild ride in this wrestling world I've grown up in. I hope you enjoyed some of these stories and a little insight to my world. 


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10 comments

  • Really interesting stuff… I’ve enjoyed all of your blogs so far.
    How about interviewing some of your guys and giving us some background on them. Gabe must have a cool story. Blake or Zack as well.

    RayAtL on
  • Man, Chris Masters would’ve been incredible!

    SC on
  • First came across Kyle Bradford on the old NHB-Battle site which is now incorporated into Movimus. His matches with Swage were my first introduction. Became a fan because he had strong scissors and wasn’t afraid to gut punch. would love to hear some of those stories. I can imagine him being a bully/bad boy behing the scenes!

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  • would love to know the true story of Kyle Bradford and the Tom Cruise ….

    jm on
  • Kyle – Not sure which story you’re talking about but if it’s the one which is used as the reason he’ll never work for a certain wrestling video company again then yes it’s true.

    Buff – Check out Colt Cabana’s podcast interview with Buff. It’s pretty insightful how truthful Buff was about his past. Around 2014 he was a male escort (sorry, ladies only) on a site called Cowboys4Angels. His prices: "$800 for 2 hours, $1550 for 4 hours and $3000 for an overnight “visit.” Weekends are steep — $8K. And a full week with Bagwell — $25K." – TMZ. (Again, “for-ladies-only”.)

    Sammy – Yes, he did do wrestling vids under a different name. Do a Google image search and you’ll see pictures where he wrestled in speedos. The company in question decided, “Hey he’s become famous” so did a “Everything by this guy is on sale!” Only for the videos to then disappear completely from the site. Hopefully this was done out of respect and not a shakedown for money.

    I ran a website called Submissions which had an extensive online database of everyone who wrestled in every wrestling video company going all the way back to AMG. This way you could look up a wrestler and see all the companies they worked for and any inside information one might be interested in. (Not rumors, but stuff which was public information supplies by the company themselves. You now like one Old Reliable wrestler who the company said, “Tried to rob us at gunpoint.”)

    Several years ago I started receiving polite “cease and desist” requests from people asking to be removed. It seems my site started ending up at the top of several Google searches. Many of these men were now in their 40’s and in professions which wouldn’t take kindly to their pasts. Included in these were requests from two people in England and from someone at BGEast.

    I took the whole thing down when I realized it was in fact being used in at least two cases of attempted blackmail. I’d hate to see anyone’s career, like Sammy’s, ruined for in reality doing nothing wrong. The only reason I even confirm the Sammy rumor is because it has been talked about and some of the images have appeared on Reddit. So again, a simple Google search shows it’s no longer a big secret.

    The last time the “Did he really do underground vids?” reared its head enough to make people take notice – Romeo Roselli who used to be in the WWE. Originally he was pissed when people realized he did several JPWA videos. Only to cool down when it didn’t seem to affect his career.

    magusxxx on

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